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The Waiting is the Hardest Part

Filed under: - Clarion, Writing — Trent @ 1:08 pm

Tom Petty said it best. The waiting is the hardest part.

I’ve currently got four stories pending at various markets with a bunch more ready to go. I’m finding that it’s easier to keep moving if I have a number of irons in the fire simultaneously, so to speak. Writing and editing short shorts (around 1K) is a lot easier than working on the longer ones, but the longer ones obviously are more ambitious. I’m seriously reworking “Black Jack Davy,” a Clarion submission story and one that’s got favorable rejections to the few places I originally sent it. Post-Clarion, I realized that it was a mess mostly due to the skipping timeline and general wordiness. So I’m trimming and getting it ready to do the rounds at the pro markets and might give it a shot at the Writers of the Future (WOTF) contest.

I wondered if I got into Scifiction.com by next week (which I probably won’t) whether it will get back to me in time for the next WOTF contest deadline, ending May 31. The answer: probably not, at least according to the Black Hole Listing site, where writers report market response/rejection times.

I copied today’s results (4-5-05) into Excel and pasted the results below. SFWA Pro markets are listed first, sorted by average response time followed by other high-quality markets I’m most familiar with. Columns are the market, average response time in days, minimum (i.e. fastest) response time, maximum (i.e. slowest) response time, and data points (i.e. submissions to the Black Hole.)


Qualified Pro Markets
Avg.
Min.
Max.

Data pts
Fantasy and Sci-Fi
11
2
75
377
ChiZine
15
1
99
65
Strange Horizons
30
8
156
316
The Third Alternative
38
2
217
68
Analog
39
16
235
119
Brutarian
41
1
283
69
SciFi.com
49
9
105
170
Asimov’s Sci-Fi
87
17
173
203
Realms of Fantasy
91
10
294
145
New Yorker
94
3
227
22
Cicada
100
20
220
24
Cricket
110
13
247
11
Interzone
215
1
1694
37


Other Good Markets
Avg.
Min.
Max.

Data pts
Lenox Avenue
7
1
70
113
Flesh and Blood
10
1
394
142
Alchemy
13
2
73
128
Abyss & Apex
20
1
248
111
Ideomancer
21
1
117
175
Fortean Bureau
28
2
131
81
Talebones
46
13
91
54
Andromeda Spaceways
48
1
365
116
Lady Churchill’s Rosebud Wristlet
51
15
85
26
Absolute Magnitude
64
11
304
24
Gothic.net
81
1
153
8
Weird Tales
94
13
397
97
Cemetary Dance
99
2
662
64
Zoetrope
136
88
195
22
Black Gate
246
3
596
76

So what does this mean? I dunno. Most of the averages are consistent with my experience, although Cicada averages 100 days; mine was 160. Believe me, you’re counting those minutes over two months of wondering what’s taking so long, especially if you think the story is good.

Suppose I have a story I think has real merit and deserves to be in only one of the “biggest” pro sci-fi/fantasy markets. For the sake of argument, let’s say I send it to F&SF, Strange Horizons, Analog, Scifi.com, Asimov’s, and Realms of Fantasy and because of their lack of vision, they all reject it. If all of these magazines hit their average response times, it’ll take 10-11 months for the story to make this circuit. And that’s assuming the story is sent out the very next day after receiving the rejection.

Furthermore, I get the feeling that stories that do sell get even longer response times. This certainly seems to be the case for Realms of Fantasy, where stories plucked from the slush pile take 6-8 months until the author is notified the story has been accepted. There’s nothing saying after 6 months the editor can’t say, “Close, but nah.” That makes the wait potentially even longer across the board for good stories.

Still, what’s the alternative? The lesson I’ve learned is quality over quantity. When I first started sending stuff out (just over a year-and-a-half, but it seems like an eternity ago) I had the exact opposite mentality; Send lots of pretty good stories and eventually something will stick. I found out that if you send out lots of pretty good stories you get lots of pretty good rejections.

The only way to sell a story is to really work it over patiently and make it as good as it can be. Good stories sell. Pretty good stories don’t. The trick is to get as many good stories in circulation to help ease the waiting game, so you’re never more than a month or so out from an expected response.

And then there’s the small matter of whether stories you think are good really are good, and that even good stories won’t work for all markets. That’s for another day.

4 Comments »

  1. I know I’m responding to the least interesting part of an interesting post, but maybe this will be helpful: the next deadline for WotF is at the end of June, not May.

    Comment by Charles Schoenfeld — Tue, Apr 5th, 2005 @ 8:56 pm

  2. Good post. Though I’m still a firm believer in the “write as many stories” possible philosophy and eventually something will stick (which I do think has worked for certain authors). Yet I admit I’ve been slowly moving towards the “take your time, edit, think, and edit, think, and edit some more” philosophy. I guess I’m a fan of the middle ground.

    As for response times. Some of the markets I have stories/reviews out at are passing the point of ridiculousness.

    The sad part is I’ve heard of people having submissions out for over a year at a single market, with a “we’re still thinking about it” coming back as a query response, and then getting rejected in the end.

    I don’t know about you, but that would definitely piss me off.

    Comment by Eric — Wed, Apr 6th, 2005 @ 12:04 pm

  3. Charles, thanks for the WOTF heads-up. I must have misread the rules.

    Eric, I agree that the wait times get ridiculous. The “average” time is skewed in some of those examples because people are reporting a year’s wait time. That’s just crazy. I think going forward I’m querying after six months and submitting somewhere else if I don’t get a fairly prompt response.

    I also notice Realms’ market note says they’re overbooked and buying very selectively. If we use history as a guide, it means they’ll probably close to submissions soon to get through the backlog. I’m not sending anything for awhile to see how things sort themselves out. Same goes for Weird Tales. They’re closed to submissions right now after a similar “buying selectively” clause. I hope they go back to a qualified pro market, too. They deserve it.

    Comment by Me — Wed, Apr 6th, 2005 @ 1:31 pm

  4. From what I hear, in the world of poetry, multiple submissions are an accepted fact of life, even if they are officially discouraged in the submission guidelines. It’s a shame editors in our genre won’t loosen up about the practice. Sure, you would occasionally make an offer on a story and have it declined–but if you’re buying two or three issues in advance, it shouldn’t really matter.

    Comment by Charles Schoenfeld — Wed, Apr 6th, 2005 @ 4:49 pm

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